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It may not be the Same Sex "Marriage" issue or a statement in opposition to homosexuals adopting babies but, it's a start and a good one at that.
The Girl Guides Association recently announced moves to remove any reference to God in the oath (or promise?) made by Girl Guide Novices before they are received into the arms of Baden-Powellship.
Christian groups worldwide have been aghast at the prospect and now a Bishop, and an English Bishop at that, has fearlessly stepped up to the mark to fly the flag for Christendom (rather too many metaphors, I'm afraid).
Thank heavens for a Bishop who is not afraid of his own shadow...trouble is, the Bishop concerned is an Anglican and not a Catholic - no surprise there then.
Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali has commended those Girl Guide leaders who are refusing to implement the new humanist oath and is encouraging others to do likewise.
But, it's not altogether a whole hearted stand against secularism as Bishop Nazir-Ali is advocating having a choice of oaths, one Christian and one Secular.
A shame really, there are over 900,00 Girl Guides who have already taken the Christian oath without any problem.
This is just another cynical and silly move by the humanist lobby.
The Catholic problem vis a vis the Bishops is that they all have a 'diocesan' mentality and no one speaks out with a corporate voice, as England and Wales is the territory of Archbishop Vincent Nichols.
And we know, do we not? That His Grace lacks the Heenan principle of grabbing a television camera crew and putting the Catholic view forward pronto.
Are you saying that a girl who does not believe in God should have to make the promise to God before she can join the Guides?
ReplyDeleteLiam, I am saying that the Guides Association has Christianity as its bedrock. Therefore, a non Christian should be excluded unless they take the promise.
ReplyDeleteThe Guides are a Christian organisation. Those who want another kind of organisation should start their own. But, no, they want to destroy Christianity and its organisations.
ReplyDeleteRichard and Lynda,
ReplyDeleteThe Guides have never been a Christian organisation nor had Christianity as it's bedrock. So to drop the promise to God is not relevant.
Richard and Lynda,
ReplyDeleteThe Guides have never been a Christian organisation nor had Christianity as it's bedrock. So to drop the promise to God is not relevant.
Sorry. Those two last posts were mine sent twice and anonymously in error.
ReplyDeleteLiam
Liam - the Baden-Powells were fervent Christians and the Guides oath invokes the Christian God:
ReplyDelete"I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."
Seems pretty clear to me.