tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post5442723029870365137..comments2024-03-23T09:59:53.293+00:00Comments on LINEN ON THE HEDGEROW: Bishop Burns of Menevia credits bloggers with the ability to influence the Papal electionRichard Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10826907710570316952noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-81479371895568509242013-03-07T07:23:48.539+00:002013-03-07T07:23:48.539+00:00John Nolan - based on past experiences it has a ri...John Nolan - based on past experiences it has a ring of truth about it. Many years ago Cardinal Hume is alleged to have made an emergency dash to Rome to thwart Pope JP2's plans to 'liberate' the Latin Mass; he was successful, of course. <br />As to what they are afraid of...the mind boggles.Richard Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10826907710570316952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-81847632385769994542013-03-07T00:14:52.127+00:002013-03-07T00:14:52.127+00:00Paul Inwood, the shortly-to-be-made-redundant litu...Paul Inwood, the shortly-to-be-made-redundant liturgy director of Portsmouth diocese claims on the PrayTell blog that the E&W bishops 'begged' Benedict XVI not to release Summorum Pontificum. I would like to know a) is this true? and b) what were their lordships afraid of?John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-28814597939751672902013-03-06T09:59:23.012+00:002013-03-06T09:59:23.012+00:00My apologies for not responding individually but t...My apologies for not responding individually but thank you all for your comments and, if I had to highlight those that were especially in accord with my own thoughts it would be the ones from Tom Sharpling, Aged P and OPN. God bless you and spare us all from the bishops.Richard Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10826907710570316952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-60400854568788616582013-03-05T17:49:08.003+00:002013-03-05T17:49:08.003+00:00It is clear viewing the article written in the Tab...It is clear viewing the article written in the Tablet that the thinking is very much that what is wrong is "out there" somewhere , but not in one's own garden.<br /><br />Let's suppose I was setting off on a journey, and it was a snowy day. It would be no good trying to fill in the potholes at the road leading to the destination hundreds of miles away before clearing the snow off ones own drive, and this , it seems, is what is being attempted by writing this article. <br /><br />If there had been more adherence to the spirit of Benedict's teachings , things here would not be in the mess they currently are. <br /><br />No future Pope would be able to repeal the laws on same sex marriage, contraception , etc. etc. no matter how "liberal" they may be, so why are we even discussing that.<br /><br />There is a track record in the present and past Bishops of England and Wales to somehow stop what is good, tell parishioners all the things they cannot have an what they have no right to expect, protest against anything that is a bit different and full of the Spirit, not stand up effectively against things that are totally wrong, and then tell people they are lucky to have any sort of Mass at all, and expect their physical and financial contributions. <br /><br />The time has come for bishops to stop this ridiculous and futile witch-hunt against all things traditional, which is a diversion and a side issue from what is really needed stop getting everyone's backs up , accept a level of diversity in the liturgy and to begin to flower where one is planted, not hundreds of miles away in Rome. Tom Sharplinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01111526677592346467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-78517609956275576962013-03-05T06:56:31.313+00:002013-03-05T06:56:31.313+00:00Amongst the Bishop's crass collection of clich...Amongst the Bishop's crass collection of clichés, this one takes the biscuit: "enlightened thinking by liberal theologians.” Why not female, and currently writing for the Tablet?<br /><br />Aged Parent - agreed, but I would prefer insecticide, so the little bugs can't breed.Left-footerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154175028539882422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-13244698418132332872013-03-05T03:53:51.483+00:002013-03-05T03:53:51.483+00:00Aged Parent -- just right! Thank you! Aged Parent -- just right! Thank you! Lawrence Hall, HSGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04906964306659335649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-86864499422045243972013-03-04T18:35:56.401+00:002013-03-04T18:35:56.401+00:00Quite.Quite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-86876676060342316602013-03-04T18:07:23.804+00:002013-03-04T18:07:23.804+00:00He wants more indiscriminate bombing of the Islami...He wants more indiscriminate bombing of the Islamic World and even the outsourcing of these atrocities via the sale of arms for profit to Vatican approved mercenaries?Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-36424396165768406122013-03-04T17:42:02.999+00:002013-03-04T17:42:02.999+00:00"He concludes with a final plea for change: “..."He concludes with a final plea for change: “Let the new wine fill new wine skins.”"<br /><br />Perhaps he should lay off the sheep-dip. The last - admittedly more prominent- British bishop to suggest changes to discipline (not even doctrine) had his resignation rapidly accepted and has withdrawn in some disgrace!Patriciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906131174326742939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-4335313905540255642013-03-04T16:34:59.655+00:002013-03-04T16:34:59.655+00:00The last time a Pope "opened the windows"...The last time a Pope "opened the windows" of the Vatican to the world in 1962 some decidedly nasty flies, lice and cockroaches swiftly entered in. The results are less than edifying.<br /><br />I'm all for opening the windows, letting the bugs fly and crawl out and then putting up window screens.Aged parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05217229048176272954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-55161636472493298102013-03-04T16:12:44.006+00:002013-03-04T16:12:44.006+00:00Happily, the Conclave will be in the Vatican, not ...Happily, the Conclave will be in the Vatican, not in a Starbuck's. Lawrence Hall, HSGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04906964306659335649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-74417118167412188462013-03-04T13:19:26.562+00:002013-03-04T13:19:26.562+00:00I seem to be reading far more orthodox doctrine on...I seem to be reading far more orthodox doctrine on Catholic blogs than I hear from English and Welsh bishops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-22777572760783820032013-03-04T11:51:31.150+00:002013-03-04T11:51:31.150+00:00By the same token it seems an irony that none of t...By the same token it seems an irony that none of the bishops themselves appear to be influenced by Catholic blogs. Rather the reverse.<br />I'm with Ora Pro Nobis in being relieved that we have no representative at the conclave. Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-44998407479906382032013-03-04T11:38:28.535+00:002013-03-04T11:38:28.535+00:00Of course, by temporal I mean 'always correct ...Of course, by temporal I mean 'always correct and active in the present moment'. Thought I'd clear that up rather than delete again. <br /><br />Needles to say I nearly spat my tea out when I read this. Some of this post, as EFPastorEmeritus points out is rotten (rotten to the core).ORA PRO NOBIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546605493757534530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-70429131111549706842013-03-04T11:10:37.770+00:002013-03-04T11:10:37.770+00:00This is absolutely unbelievable. This Bishop obvio...This is absolutely unbelievable. This Bishop obviously thinks that the renewal of the Church by the Holy Spirit can be usurped by the 'reform of man' which always involves the side stepping of the Holy Spirit. He seems to have no concept what-so-ever of how renewal in the church works. He is acting like a spoiled child who is screaming 'me,me, me', 'I want, I want, I want'.<br /><br />I am sure that you have noticed that liberals have started to get more pro-active, outspoken, and even nasty. They have had 50 years of getting their own way and enforcing their own false doctrines on Catholics. Now that there is some solid resistance which actually involves correct catechesis they are starting to 'throw their toys out of their prams'.<br /><br />What is expressly worrying here is that he wants reform involving stem cell research which involves destroying the earliest stage of unwanted embryos. It sounds as if he is part of the 'ensoulment' brigade who do not believe that a embryo or foetus are a person until they have a relationship with their mother (handy for pro-abortion Catholics). It is as if he does not understand the concept that church teaching, that is guided by the Holy Spirit, cannot err because it is impossible for the Holy Spirit to be in error or contradict Himself. This idea of 'ensoulment' was part of church teaching years ago. He obviously does not understand the temporal nature of church teaching not being in error in the present. Or maybe he disagrees with that as well.<br /><br />We need to be thankful that at present there are no Cardinals from Britain who are going to be present at the conclave.ORA PRO NOBIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546605493757534530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-64219732386785643702013-03-04T10:20:30.509+00:002013-03-04T10:20:30.509+00:00"He urges the conclave to “ open all doors......"He urges the conclave to “ open all doors....”"<br /><br />Conclave: open doors? Surely some mishtake?<br /><br />Patriciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906131174326742939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-61762603812530010042013-03-04T09:10:09.468+00:002013-03-04T09:10:09.468+00:00Sad to say his statement is a bit like like the cu...Sad to say his statement is a bit like like the curate's egg "Not entirely bad". Though some parts seem rotten!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com