tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post1412023278175917539..comments2024-03-23T09:59:53.293+00:00Comments on LINEN ON THE HEDGEROW: Bernard on FrancisRichard Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10826907710570316952noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-60998572475649782032013-10-18T14:12:24.128+01:002013-10-18T14:12:24.128+01:00On October 17, 2013, in his homily on the Gospel, ...On October 17, 2013, in his homily on the Gospel, the Holy Father gave an idea of what he thinks about at least some of his critics. It is certainly a call to a sincere examination of conscience for them. To the rest of us, it explains how to understand where is coming from in his pastoral approach. In his talk, the Pope explained: Christians who do not pray "abandon the faith and transform it into a casuistry , moralistic ideology, without Jesus … ideologies do not call to us" “But how does a "Christian start behaving like this … His Faith fades, so to speak, it is distilled and becomes ideology. And ideologies cannot convoke. Jesus cannot be found in Ideologies: his tenderness, love, meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always … when a Christian becomes a disciple of ideology, he loses faith and is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he becomes a disciple of this attitude of thought … Knowledge of Jesus is transformed into a ideological and even moralistic knowledge, because they closed the door with a lot of requirements." "Faith becomes ideology and ideologies scare, ideologies chase people away, far away, they distance people and they distance the Church from people. This is a serious illness, this Christian ideology. It is a disease, but it is not new, eh? Even the Apostle John, in his first letter, spoke of this. Christians who lose their faith and prefer ideologies … their attitude: they become rigid moralists, ethicists, but without kindness. This could be the question to ask. Why does a Christian become this way, what happens in the heart of the Christian, that of a priest, bishop, of a pope, who becomes so? Just one thing: that Christian does not pray.” "The key that opens the door to faith is prayer." "When a Christian does not pray … his witness is a proud witness." Whoever does not pray is "is proud, is sure of himself. He is not humble. He seeks his own advancement." However, "when a Christian prays, he never leaves the faith, his dialogue with Jesus … pray to speak with Him, don't just say prayers to say them, because these scholars of the law said many prayers" to be seen to pray. Instead, Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room and pray to the Father in secret, heart to heart." "It’s one thing to pray, and another thing to say prayers." "These do not pray, they abandon the faith and become disciples of a moralistic, casuistry ideology, without Jesus. It seems clear from the conclusion of this talk (as reported by Asianews) that this is the Pope’s answer to recent criticism of some of his remarks: “And when a prophet or a good Christian scolds them they do the same thing they did with Jesus: ' When he left there, the scribes and Pharisees began to treat him in a hostile manner - these people who follow ideologies are hostile - and made him talk about many subjects, laying traps- they are insidious - to surprise him with the words out of his own mouth . They are not transparent. Eh, poor things, they are people soiled by pride. Let us ask for the Lord's grace, first: to not stop praying, to not lose faith, to stay humble . And so we will not become closed in on ourselves, closing the path to the Lord. "<br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-32048852230444967812013-10-18T02:46:09.176+01:002013-10-18T02:46:09.176+01:00I love that man. God continue to bless Bishop Fel...I love that man. God continue to bless Bishop Fellay.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08481730297658525937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-58918916391497097992013-10-16T22:56:44.559+01:002013-10-16T22:56:44.559+01:00Now including Fellay,many blog posts and even more... Now including Fellay,many blog posts and even more comments. anyone who limits lio to mess has lost me on their other arguments. <br />In Rio Pope Francis spoke perfectly clearly in the world's 2nd international language. You could disagree with what he DID say, I don't see why i should cheer attacks on a straw man.<br /><br />That is one thing we've lost with vernacular use in the church , the general caution before being sure we had understood everything perfectly.<br /><br />Incidentally, Luther WAS absolutely right about the wording of the sale of indulgences- in German.<br />Mike Cliffsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06405021835510775527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-59613508739731550542013-10-16T17:44:04.014+01:002013-10-16T17:44:04.014+01:00Out of curiosity, why did you leave?Out of curiosity, why did you leave?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-61701532446167597442013-10-16T07:25:12.689+01:002013-10-16T07:25:12.689+01:00Please - no more anonymous comments. Thank you.Please - no more anonymous comments. Thank you.Richard Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10826907710570316952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-69674607395335712972013-10-16T00:52:42.608+01:002013-10-16T00:52:42.608+01:00John, I am sure I am not the only one who would l...John, I am sure I am not the only one who would like to hear more about your reaction to the "new" Mass having never seen it. I often wonder if my relatives who died around 1960 would even recognize what passes for the Church today as actually being the Catholic Church they had known.<br /><br />Anon777Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-45712377913521186712013-10-16T00:32:10.523+01:002013-10-16T00:32:10.523+01:00True. True. Lyndanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-72367908693010359842013-10-15T23:17:05.674+01:002013-10-15T23:17:05.674+01:00The last time I attended mass was around 1960, but...The last time I attended mass was around 1960, but, recently, after a close friend passed away I attended his funeral at a SSPX church. I was very moved by the mass and by the reverence of the packed church. The reverence was for my friend, for the mass, and for our Lord. <br /><br />A few weeks later I decided to attend a mass in a non-SSPX church and I came away from it thinking, "What the... ??" The mass was almost unrecognizable. <br /><br />Another Catholic church in my area now offers a dancing priest during mass, complete with choreography, accompanying dancers, and loud music. <br /><br />I am being pulled back to being a Catholic, and I am blessed to have a SSPX church right in my neighborhood. <br /><br />John Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-28893248612799861522013-10-15T21:50:55.558+01:002013-10-15T21:50:55.558+01:00Oh, really?
It's blind arrogance that I want ...Oh, really?<br /><br />It's blind arrogance that I want to practice my Faith the way it's always been practiced?<br /><br />It's blind arrogance that I want to worship as we've always worshiped?<br /><br />It's blind arrogance to just be Catholic?<br /><br />It's blind arrogance?<br /><br />This must be some sort of joke. <br /><br />~HannahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-20368874677442651562013-10-15T19:28:24.567+01:002013-10-15T19:28:24.567+01:00I also add to my daily Rosary intention that "...I also add to my daily Rosary intention that "modernism be eradicated from your Son's Church."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-48667191986600253662013-10-15T19:07:04.066+01:002013-10-15T19:07:04.066+01:00Agreed!Agreed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-80004188990973195602013-10-15T19:05:01.422+01:002013-10-15T19:05:01.422+01:00“The situation of the Church is a real disaster, a...“The situation of the Church is a real disaster, and the present Pope is making it 10,000 times worse.”<br /><br />Absolutely, yes! <br /><br />Thank you, Bishop Fellay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-78111983072283766842013-10-15T17:59:31.422+01:002013-10-15T17:59:31.422+01:00I no longer attend the SSPX, but the only "bl...I no longer attend the SSPX, but the only "blind arrogance" I have seen is in a Church that seems hell bent on fixing what was never broken for the past almost sixty years. The only "blind arrogance" I have seen is in men pushing their pet ideologies on the rest of the Catholics in the pew and thinking that now finally the Church has got it all right. The only "blind arrogance" I have seen is in thinking that the fruits of the Second Vatican Council has been "enormous" instead of admitting that it has all been a colossal failure and has damaged the Church beyond anything a human being can do to fix it.<br />You want "blind arrogance"? THAT'S blind arrogance!!<br /><br />Anon777Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-52548261985918867002013-10-15T17:37:35.948+01:002013-10-15T17:37:35.948+01:00Yes! Thank you Bishop Fellay! What a relief to hea...Yes! Thank you Bishop Fellay! What a relief to hear a Bishop say these things. Anyone who has read Pascendi Dominici Gregis will see that what the he is saying is the stark truth. We have a Modernist Pope...and this is a frightening thing..the Papacy is being attacked by the devil as Father Rodriguez said, He also said we musr pray a lot for the Holy Father and remain in a state of grace ....<br /><br />Bob, the Bishop is not turning his back on the Church - I didn't read that anywhere.... on the contrary....<br /><br />Barbara<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-13828704741335996842013-10-15T17:24:42.557+01:002013-10-15T17:24:42.557+01:00Just as Luther used the defects of the Catholic Ch...Just as Luther used the defects of the Catholic Church of his time to justify his arrogant rebellion, the SSPX is EXACTLY the same with their "holier than thou" BLIND ARROGANCE. Especially their leaders will have to face the same question as Adam "What have you done!?" on the day of their judgment for leading astray the little ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-41394228789976141752013-10-15T15:49:29.699+01:002013-10-15T15:49:29.699+01:00The Bishop has many great points. However, to leav...The Bishop has many great points. However, to leave the Church and then look back at Her and shake an accusing fist is nonsense. I believe Our Blessed Lord was pretty clear when he said the gates of hell would not prevail. There are great issues and serious problems in the Church. Anyone who chooses to turn their back on The Church and say "it's all lost, it's full of bad people" chooses to abandon Our Blessed Lord because He Is His Church. Remember, in His own Words, He came for the sick!!<br />Pray and do penance just like The Baptist cried out in the wilderness, that is our only hope, not any particular bishop.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02911846344781224854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-53529781659717501292013-10-15T14:53:13.999+01:002013-10-15T14:53:13.999+01:00Stop panicking everyone! The Holy Spirit is in ch...Stop panicking everyone! The Holy Spirit is in charge; 'My Immaculate Heart will triumph' etc etc. We don't need to get rid of the Modernists, we need to wake them up, we need to help them to come to a full understanding of Revelation, we need to help them to grow up. Keep working at it guys! Remember to stay as wise as a serpent and as gentle as a dove, and keep those home fires burning. The Modernists will eventually trip up on their own contradictions and come limping home, because there is no other solution; we know that.Squashed Sardinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00853923913857193315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-43532490130050189032013-10-15T13:46:01.619+01:002013-10-15T13:46:01.619+01:00Bishop Fellay speaks with the words of a prophet.....Bishop Fellay speaks with the words of a prophet....the ring and resonance of true is unmistakable. Here is a man with TRUE humility.susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-9287235364772682862013-10-15T12:02:09.517+01:002013-10-15T12:02:09.517+01:00People need to hear the constant unchanging univer...People need to hear the constant unchanging universal truths from their bishops not relativistic uncertainties that lead to paralysis and hopelessness. Lord, have mercy. Lyndanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-11867619981632268452013-10-15T02:18:54.792+01:002013-10-15T02:18:54.792+01:00Thank you, Bishop Fellay!!
These truly are fright...Thank you, Bishop Fellay!!<br /><br />These truly are frightening times and it just gets even more frightening. We must pray for Holy Mother Church. We must pray that the Modernists are rooted out of Her once and for all. The Church has been undergoing Her Passion for so long. Surely, it shouldn't be long before we see Her Resurrection?<br /><br />God bless.<br /><br />~HannahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-80450853104922370532013-10-15T01:09:39.387+01:002013-10-15T01:09:39.387+01:00What frightening times, when our Pope needs his ev...What frightening times, when our Pope needs his every other public statement explained. He is not a stupid man, so is it arrogance?<br />Almighty God have mercy on Your Church.gtaylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429985648481458991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-4995018294750977222013-10-15T00:41:43.869+01:002013-10-15T00:41:43.869+01:00The love of God and the love of our holy Church an...The love of God and the love of our holy Church and ultimately 'saving souls' is in the heart of our dear Bishop. May he be blessed with courage, May he persevere, for he is not alone..........All of Heaven, together with the faithful in four corners of the earth, are praying asking God and His Mother for tender loving care.........offering All for the Glory of God, for the Glory of the Holy Catholic Church! <br /> <br />It is truly the work of the Holy Ghost and God's Holy Will, to REJOYCE...........it is 'the hour' of working in God's devastated Vineyard, awakening from lethargy those who are asleep, those who are lukewarm, those who are ignorant. It's a time to hear the sound of the ringing bells from Catholic Churches, time for good harvest, time to gather the good fruits, time to pull out some weeds, time in the making of new saints, even martyrs, time to rebuild God's Holy Church and Restore All in Christ!<br /> <br />May our Risen Lord and our Beloved Mother Mary, bless All Soldiers of Christ!<br /> <br />Viva Cristo Rey!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-43739048627229205502013-10-14T22:36:46.387+01:002013-10-14T22:36:46.387+01:00 Real leadership from a bishop, at last. Thanks be... Real leadership from a bishop, at last. Thanks be to God.EditorCThttp://www.catholictruthscotland.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-45766529563738461472013-10-14T20:55:59.024+01:002013-10-14T20:55:59.024+01:00"Genuine" Modernists have occupied the h..."Genuine" Modernists have occupied the highest levels of the Church for as long as i've been around. I'm 47. I pray every day for the extirpation of modernism in the Church and a restoration of an authentic sensus catholicus. ServusMariaeNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963287463957393931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3682550116445790117.post-68457093947103638212013-10-14T20:54:50.954+01:002013-10-14T20:54:50.954+01:00M. fellay como siempre le falta cinco para un peso...M. fellay como siempre le falta cinco para un peso, (es una frase aquí en Argentina) es que se quedó corto en su apresiación sobre Bergoglio, como será que él cree que quien se hace llamar Francisco es un Papa católico, cuando en realidad está haciendo el trabajo de terminar con lo poco que puede quedar de católico, es un termineitor el II, pero el malo , el líquido, porque ha liquidado la verdadera religión poniendo una nueva y falsa haciendo de precursor del Anticristo. Si a alguién le caé mal lo lamento, pero no debemos esconder la realidad de lo que pasa, no se puede esconder la verdad. Bendito sea Él Señorjorge calderonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928453410524757396noreply@blogger.com